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WTF Merlin?

So, is Stealth dead again? Down all day yesterday, still down today.

I think it's the end of the road for Accelerators.
 
Tonkso said:
So, is Stealth dead again? Down all day yesterday, still down today.

I think it's the end of the road for Accelerators.
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I know that Thorpe have been in regular contact with Intamin about the issue.

I don't think it's the end of the road for Accelerators. Stealth has been very reliable the last few years, a hiccup (though not ideal) is by no means cause to sound the alarm just yet. And the others around the world seem to largely be fine.
 
JoshC. said:
I know that Thorpe have been in regular contact with Intamin about the issue.

I don't think it's the end of the road for Accelerators. Stealth has been very reliable the last few years, a hiccup (though not ideal) is by no means cause to sound the alarm just yet. And the others around the world seem to largely be fine.
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To be fair to Thorpe, it's now testing. They've clearly worked hard to get this thing back online.
 
My single largest gripe with Nemesis reborn was the removal of the front-row queue line to add some extra theming into the station without having to extend the building. This was enough for the ride to shoot down my rankings as the front row (to me) makes such a huge difference to the ride experience, especially on inverts. So removing the option to wait longer for an uncompromised ride experience resulted in a ride with a 1/8 chance of having the intended experience with all of the scenery and near-misses as intended.

We recently went to Thorpe Park on Wednesday and finally got a front-row ride on Hyperia, after around 10 attempts (as probability would dictate). It was one of the best experiences I have ever had as a 15+ year enthusiast. In my last cred review, I excused the lack of a front row with the presumption that it was a year-one measure to ensure the throughout was maximised when the queues were at their longest. Now, that excuse is gone, and their policy to require the 1/10 lottery for rows is arbitrary.

So, I have to ask the question. Why is Merlin so fiercely against having extra queues for the best experience?! Oblivion is an early outlier, the smiler and Wicker man are the first cases of this ongoing trend (though they are less consequential) but NR and Hyperia are genuinely detrimental to the potential experience.

Is this an intentional decision? If so, what is the justification??

(As per my last few posts, I am over exaggerating the issue, but I am still curious why such a deliberate decision has been made?)
 
Changa said:
My single largest gripe with Nemesis reborn was the removal of the front-row queue line to add some extra theming into the station without having to extend the building. This was enough for the ride to shoot down my rankings as the front row (to me) makes such a huge difference to the ride experience, especially on inverts. So removing the option to wait longer for an uncompromised ride experience resulted in a ride with a 1/8 chance of having the intended experience with all of the scenery and near-misses as intended.

We recently went to Thorpe Park on Wednesday and finally got a front-row ride on Hyperia, after around 10 attempts (as probability would dictate). It was one of the best experiences I have ever had as a 15+ year enthusiast. In my last cred review, I excused the lack of a front row with the presumption that it was a year-one measure to ensure the throughout was maximised when the queues were at their longest. Now, that excuse is gone, and their policy to require the 1/10 lottery for rows is arbitrary.

So, I have to ask the question. Why is Merlin so fiercely against having extra queues for the best experience?! Oblivion is an early outlier, the smiler and Wicker man are the first cases of this ongoing trend (though they are less consequential) but NR and Hyperia are genuinely detrimental to the potential experience.

Is this an intentional decision? If so, what is the justification??

(As per my last few posts, I am over exaggerating the issue, but I am still curious why such a deliberate decision has been made?)
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I think that front row queues have become less of a priority with operations being a factor in this.

With Hyperia, there has been intention to introduce a front row queue however with the ride being very popular still, it hasn't been introduced as of yet.

I don't know if the plans have changed or if this is still intending to happen.

I personally think it's not a bad thing not having a front row queue due to the extended queue times with it.

I'd say we are also seeing more single rider queues to support operations which are well received.

I'd say that if Merlin are against front row queues, they would have phased these out already which the ones they're in haven't been removed yet.

I'd imagine the ones there already will stay unless there's a reason for it's removal.
 
Changa said:
My single largest gripe with Nemesis reborn was the removal of the front-row queue line to add some extra theming into the station without having to extend the building. This was enough for the ride to shoot down my rankings as the front row (to me) makes such a huge difference to the ride experience, especially on inverts. So removing the option to wait longer for an uncompromised ride experience resulted in a ride with a 1/8 chance of having the intended experience with all of the scenery and near-misses as intended.
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Yeah, I completely agree. As well as the views, the intensity of Nemesis is massively different in the front and back seats. So much so, that some people may not actually like the ride in the rear seats. It could be argued that you are actually queuing for a different ride, whether you want to ride at the front or back. I prefer the ride so much at the front, I don't think I'd even bother riding it without a front-row queue, and that goes for quite a few major coasters. It's one of those little details that makes Merlin so much worse than Tussauds.
 
I agree, the lack of a front row queue is my biggest gripe with the new Nemesis. After spending 6 days at Towers last year in total and getting countless rides, I was pretty disappointed to not get the front row even once.
 
I usually just ask each time, you won't always get what you want, but sometimes, if they can, they will let you.

If you let being told "no, sorry" put you off asking next time, you're never going to hear that magic "yes."

I have ridden both new coasters on the front row thanks to this, Nemesis Reborn lots and lots of times*, although I preferred back on Hyperia, and so started asking for that instead. I also almost always ask for the back on Wickerman, with a 90% ish success rate... That ride is just pointless unless you're in one of the back 2 rows, and unless they already have somebody that came through the preshow bypass waiting, they'll generally let you wait.

tl;dr, just ask, accept the answer when it's a 'no,' and try again next time. You will get a 'yes' when it's possible.

*Although it did take me a long time, and some pity, to get that first FR ride!
 
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