Chinese learn a new way to eat fish...

[AJ]

I think it's absoloutely ****ing outrageously disgusting and cruel.

Don't watch it if you're a propper animal lover!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9V744sYrbY[/youtube]

 

[bezzzzzer]

Oh my God that's just sick.

Horrid and sick.

I don't think I could do that without feeling very harsh afterwards.

 

[A-Kid]

Mentaly sick bastards. I can't believe what I just saw. Let me skin you alive and poke you in the mouth with my stick and other fleshless areas.

 

[RCF]

Dude that's so ****ing wrong. Jeez why the hell would you do something like that? I wonder how they'd feel if the fish was doing that to them. (For the record I know fish can't do that I was saying it hypothetically).

 

[SaiyanHajime]

I'd rather they did this to a ...carp? than ran mantas, whale sharks and other rare sea beasties to extinction.

But it's still ****ing awful.

The ending paragrph here, however, is totally true. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... video.html

"“We have our traditions, as the Spanish have bullfighting, and you, until recently, had foxhunting. We did not criticise you or the Spanish for this. Tiger bones for traditional medicine are now banned, to the suffering of the Chinese industry.” "

 

[Ollie]

Eww. One of my Media lecturers had told us once when he went out to Japan (I think) and they went to a restaurant but didn't know what was what and he said one of his friends ordered something and it turned out to be a fish. But when he prodded it it moved as it was still alive so he had to kill it. Apparently it got quite messy and he decided not to eat it.
But yeah that's pretty disgusting.

 

[AJ]

Let me poke you in the mouth with my stick

 

[LiveForTheLaunch]

Well, I hope they die terrible deaths.

Even if it's just a fish, it still has nerves and can still feel stuff. I saw my stepdad skinning a fish alive and my whole neighbourhood probably thought I was being murdered because of the way I was screaming. Needless to say I didn't talk to him again for DAYS after that.

But some of the Chinese are sick bastards, and that's not being racist. Just some of the things they do over in Asia are plain terrible.

 

[kimahri]

I lol'd.

And this is hardly new... Om nom nom nom.

Edit: You know what. I want to be more controversial. I'd eat a dog, depending on the Cost and Taste. I don't really like fish so that one up there doesn't look to apetising regardless of if it's still alive or not.

 

[tks]

That's awesome I want one. It's only a ****ing fish. Get over it.

 

[LiveForTheLaunch]

I HATE when people say "it's only a this, it's only a that, it's only a fish, it's only a hamster, cry me a river". Are you guys THAT retarded? Because it's not a human, or something super close to a human like a dog or something, means it should be tortured? Because it doesn't think like us, or even live like us, we should laugh at its expense? They still can FEEL, and I'm sure they know what pain is, so why purposely do it? Why not just kill the fish to eat it then? Hell, I ate fish today and it tasted just fine, so why do they have to eat theirs while it's half alive?

But no, just because it may not be exactly like us, means it's good to laugh at it because it's dying in what looks like a very painful way. You guys are ****ing disgusting.

 

[Hixee]

That sort of thing really doesn't bother me.

I don't think I'd eat it, but I'm not mentally affected by it.

 

[SaiyanHajime]

That's awesome I want one. It's only a <img src='http://www.coasterforce.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_censored.gif' /> fish. Get over it.

At what point up the ladder does it become acceptable, just curious?

Amphibians? Reptiles maybe? Mammals? Only big mammals which show intelegence? Just the great apes? Just humans?

 

[furie]

"“We have our traditions, as the Spanish have bullfighting, and you, until recently, had foxhunting. We did not criticise you or the Spanish for this. Tiger bones for traditional medicine are now banned, to the suffering of the Chinese industry.” "

There was always an argument for fox hunting and there still is. However, it can be done in better ways than a bunch of toffs making a days entertainment of it

They are right of course.

I just want to add in a bit of food for thought...

Why not just kill the fish to eat it then? Hell, I ate fish today and it tasted just fine, so why do they have to eat theirs while it's half alive?

I know it's easy to pick on Taylor, but she raises a good point here.

I ate fish two days ago. It came pre-battered and frozen ready to be cooked. It was already dead. Surely this is the best way to eat fish?

Well, that cod was caught somewhere out in the Atlantic. It was trapped in a huge net and dragged onto a boat. There, it spent time in the hold, waiting to die of asphyxiation, or to be gutted.

If it's lucky, it will be gutted on the boat almost immediately it will not be killed before it is gutted. It can take between 25 and 65 minutes for a fish that is gutted to die.

If the fish is not gutted, it can take up to 250 minutes (four hours) to die

So, the fish I ate the other night, would have been either brutally disembowelled and left to die for an hour. Or left to suffocate for anywhere up to four hours - in distress.

While the above looks barbaric, that fish will have been recently taken from a pool where it was happy. From swimming to stress filled death will have taken maybe 5 minutes? Compare that to the fish you ate last night which probably suffered exactly the same cruelty, but extended over a much longer period of suffering. All of us that eat pre-packaged food are responsible for a much greater deal of suffering.

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't happening for your benefit

At least this way the fish died quicker, and the diner has to actually deal morally with his kill - weigh up the benefits of food pleasure compared to the suffering he causes. At least he's not a hypocrite!

That was fun! Anyone for a fish tonight then? (I am ).

 

[SaiyanHajime]

The issue for me Phil, is that this fish isn't just dying the most cost effective (or whatever other factors) way to become food. It's dying for entertainment primarilly. As a quirky novelty food. Which is why this is more like Bull Fighting or Fox Hunting.

Bull fighting and fox hunting are far worse though. But, still.

 

[Slash]

Yeah I agree that doing this is horrible but furie is right.

Plus PETA are very hypocritical. They have killed tens of thousands of dogs and similar numbers of cats because they couldn't be homed. Supposedly they couldn't afford to keep them, when they can afford to spend billions of dollars on advertising such things as don't eat beef...

 

[furie]

The issue for me Phil, is that this fish isn't just dying the most cost effective (or whatever other factors) way to become food. It's dying for entertainment primarilly. As a quirky novelty food. Which is why this is more like Bull Fighting or Fox Hunting.

Hmmmm... but surely the world would be a better place if ALL fish were eaten in this way? That would be the humane way forward

My view has always been "as long as the animal which died has suffered as little as possible and is actually consumed* - I'm okay with it".

This fits happily in that narrow little world view, more so than mass farming farming methods and the cruelty they cause animals (for convenience - surely sustained cruelty to an animal for convenience is worse than quick cruelty for pleasure?)

I do see your point Joey, honestly, I just think people need to understand a little more about the way things work before going "OMG!!! How could you kill a fish so cruelly, I only eat mine already dead" in complete ignorance of the suffering they have actually caused.

Anyway, I agree with you that cruelty for pleasure (like bull fighting) is bad - but I think this particular case blurs the lines much more so than any previous "animal cruelty" thing I've ever seen.






*Consumption also relates to the dead animal being put to other uses such as leather.

 

[LiveForTheLaunch]

I get what you mean Furie, but I didn't sit there and make the fish have a painful death. It just did not because of me, but because that's the way it unfortunately happens on the boats or wherever. I also didn't sit and prod it with a stick and laugh at it.. I ate it, which is suppose to be the purpose of killing animals for food. Not entertainment, and it never should be.

 

[Gazza]

I think the thing that is bad about it is that somebody actually thought of a way to keep one half of the fish alive (Apparently it is done by wrapping the head in a damp cloth) and the other cooked.

When fish eventually die on fishing vessels, I guess there is a degree of carelessness to it since it probably isn't practical to end the life of hundreds of fish easily.

But here, it just seems a bit twisted to have actually thought of a method of keeping something alive that should be dead.

Either way, I'm surprised people could still have an appetite with that sitting in front of them. Differences in taste aside, could you imagine eating a bit of beef where they had a cow sitting in front of you, and had skinned and blowtorched a relevant part for your consumption.

 

[furie]

I get what you mean Furie, but I didn't sit there and make the fish have a painful death. It just did not because of me, but because that's the way it unfortunately happens on the boats or wherever. .

Sorry, but you ARE

You can buy fish which were only killed in a humane way, or you can not eat fish.

If everyone who ate fish either stopped eating fish, or only bought humanely killed fish - then there would be no tortured fish in the world.

Of course, as we have seen previously "monkey see monkey do" is your attitude to life, but everyone here who does not deliberately do their best to avoid fish being killed nastily for mass consumption is responsible and guilty of cruelty...

now you are no longer ignorant of the way the fish reached your table, will you still be able to eat fish guilt free?



I will. Nom!